The Riders Tales

 

1991 Suzuki VX800: 1

Standard type, 800cc V-Twin, Water cooled, Shaft Drive Color: Black Price Paid: $2700 U.S.

History: I bought the VX in January of 1998 in Orange County, California, and have put 3,400 miles on it in 9 months. The bike had 7,800 miles when purchased and had not been modified.

Modifications: Progressive (Brand) fork springs, $45, Metzler ME-Z1 tires, Approx. $220 for both. Opinion: I'd been interested in the VX since I saw one on the showroom floor when they first came out. But, until recently, I'd had no need for another bike.

After moving to Ventura, and doing a lot of riding on the mountain roads nearby (especially Highway 33 north of Ojai) my old Yamaha XS1100 Special seemed to be lacking in the handling department. Finally, after reading everything I could find about them, including reviews posted here, I took the plunge.

No regrets at all. The VX is a very good do-everything bike. After changing the fork springs and installing radial tires it makes quite a good canyon bike. It won't, of course, keep up with a dedicated sport bike on very tight roads. But, the strong midrange power make this an easy bike to ride fast. Just put it in top gear and ride the fat torque curve. Between 40 and 80 MPH ample power is available. The radial tires made a spectacular improvement in handling. When cornering hard, the tires feel glued to the pavement, and aren't disturbed by surface irregularities.

The chassis is quite stiff. This bike has a lot of rake and trail, and so, won't "flik" in the manner of a radical sport bike. It's better suited to the knee-tucked-in, smooth arc style of riding. On straight roads, the slight forward lean is comfortable up to about 70 MPH for an hour or two. For more extended travel time or higher sustained speed, a windshiend would be appropriate, as is the case with most Standard style bikes. I' ve been getting 42-44 miles per gallon in mixed sport/commuting riding, giving a range of about 200 miles. Unlike my old bike the VX displays no drive shaft induced handling aberrations.

Cautions: The stock seat is a bit soft for extended trips (2 hours or more). The stock fork springs are way too soft, but easily fixed.

Name: Steve Davis (SDSD@west.net)

 

 

 

1991 Suzuki VX800: 2

Description: (Standard) 805cc Standard, 5 speed transmission, shaft drive Color: Red Pricing: Amount paid: $3350 History: I just purchased this bike three weeks ago. I haven't even ridden it yet! (The weather's been lousy).

When I started looking for this bike, I decided to get ahold of the VX800 rider's network. I asked if anyone knew of any VX800's for sale in my area (Massachusetts).

Jesse Murphy (who runs the network) gave me the name of a dealer in Maine who still had a new 1991 in stock! I went up to look at it and bought it on the spot. I picked it up two weeks later. My point here is that these things are still out there, brand new. Mine has 175 miles on the clock and still has a twelve month, unlimited mileage Suzuki warranty. Not bad for $3350.

Comments about the bike: I did notice that the front end is pretty soft and that even walking the bike, most of the suspension is used up in braking. I think I'll probably change those fork springs over the summer. The day I picked it up, it was damned close to zero and made a three hour trip in the back of an open pickup. When I took it out of the truck, I started it to run some STA-BIL through it. It took some doing to get the thing to start, even with the choke wide open.

Modification: Nothing yet. Opinion: At this point, I can't really offer much of an opinion, except for the fact that these bikes offer great value. Consider what a 1991 Nighthawk 750 with 175 miles would have cost and realize that you'd have to step up to an 1100 to get the VX's top gear roll on acceleration. Cautions: Can't say at this point From:

Craig Fitzgerald Date: Mon Jan 27 12:13:41 PST 1997

1990 Suzuki VX800 sport-touring:

Suzuki started making this bike in 1989.
Description: It is a rather standard street bike with some modern touches. It
has a moulded rear light assembly that is somewhat modern. The front is very
standard with the exception of some LARGE fork tubes. The 90 model was a
beautiful Burgundy. The 92's were Purple (ugh) and the 93's are red.
The specs are: 805 cc 45 degree V-twin Water cooled Shaft drive 4 Valves/head
Front fork, rear swing arm Good Stock Tires (Metzeler's) Upright riding
posture.
Pricing: I paid $4000 for mine new (in 1993) with the optional sculpted seat
and luggage rack/back rest. 1993 models with no options are starting at
$4700.
History: I've had the bike for 4 months. I have no complaints. None. Well,
one. I would like for the helmet lock to not be under the seat, and for the
seat to be hinged, not lift off. OK, that's two things. She starts and runs
reliably every day. She's a little cold blooded, but a good warm up period
sorts it all out. The oil is a breeze to change. Like I said, no problems.
Modifications: I bought the bike with Suzuki's optional sculpted seat. This
is a big improvement over the stock. Not only does it dress up the bike, but
is MUCH more comfortable. I also got the optional luggage rack/ back rest
combo. This adds a little more style and more utility for the bike. I would
like to add a fairing and saddlebags to complete the look.
Opinion: I can't rave enough about this bike. Despite it's long wheel base,
the VX800 handles far better than you would expect. She's a dream in the
twisties. The engine delivers a ton of torque. More torque than I need. Whack
open the throttle and you're gone. This bike has tons of low end umph. I also
think that it is very stylish. The bike does not suffer from excessive
vibration at any speed. You can feel the engine, but instead of a numbing
buzz, it is a low throb of power. The exhaust note on the stock pipes is
music to my ears. It is quiet enough to please the fussiest of neighbours,
but low and rumbly enough to sound good. This is a bike for people who want a
sport bike but need a commuter. You get sport bike handling and cruiser
comfort. It doesn't get better than this.
Cautions: So far, no glaring problems to be concerned about. I will update as
needed.

Name: Mike Weaver



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1992 Suzuki VX800 (Standard) Description: Comfortable and economical standard styled motorcycle. Capable of both city and highway duty. It's equipped with low maintenance features like a drive shaft and electronic (digital) ignitions. Fast where it counts, plenty of low and midrange power. Passing is just a throttle twist away, no downshifting required. (Just as fast Top-gear acceleration, in the 40 to 60mph range, as my friends GSX1100G.)


Specifications: (Suzuki's Brochure) Engine - 805cc, four stroke, 8 valve,
SOHC, liquid cooled, 45 degree V-twin, twin carburettors, valve adjustment
via screw and lock nut. Drive Train - 5 speed transmission, Shaft final drive
Tires - Front 110/80-18, Rear 150/70-18 Brakes - Front single disk, Rear
single disk Fuel Capacity - 5.3 gal. (19.0 litres) Dry Weight - 470 lbs. (213
kg) Colour - Black with blue metal-flake suspended in the clearcoat (very
pretty)


Pricing: I purchased a new 1992 model in 1993 for $3,800.00 including the
optional sport fairing (Similar in looks to the GS500 fairing). Also as part
of the deal, I required that the dealer exchange the wheels/tires with a new
1991 model on the show room floor. Dunlops were on the '92, Metzelers were on
the '91. This exchange was not a result of any known shortcomings of the
Dunlops, it was more a desire to have a tire that I have been very pleased
with in the past.
History: I have owned this bike for almost two years. I consistently receive
47 to 50 MPG when touring. With 2100 miles on the bike it has proven quite
dependable. All I have had to do is change is the oil and filter. As noted in
the previous review, the non-hinged, must remove to reach the helmet hooks,
seat is a nuisance. Overly lean carburettion, limp fork springs and a delayed
reaction front brake were the only areas that have needed upgrading. Other
changes I have made have been made solely for personal ergonomic/ascetic
reasons. See the modifications sections for details.
Modifications:
CARBURETTION; It used to take 10 minutes or more for this bike to warm up
when the ambient temperature was in the 40 to 50 degree (F) range. The dealer
would not correct this, citing something about emissions. I then sough out
the help of Shawn at DynoJet, (406) 388-4993. DynoJet did not have a kit
specific to the VX800, but had one available for the VS800 (Intruder). Shawn
provided me with a free sample if I agreed to test it on my VX800. As the
motors are the same I saw no harm in trying the kit. It is a straight forward
installation which took about 3 hours to complete. (a mechanic could probably
do it faster). I don't know if it is any quicker, but the bike has crisp
throttle response with no hint of a lean surge. It now warms up enough to
ride without using the choke within a couple of blocks at the same
temperatures.
SUSPENSION; Stopping quickly would cause the front to dive and use up all the
available suspension travel. Add in a bumpy road surface and their would not
be enough suspension to prevent bottoming. I installed Progressive
Suspension, (619) 948-4012, fork springs and 12.5 weight fork oil. Problem
cured, not too firm, offers more front end control. Spring installation is
easy, you don't have to remove the handlebars and takes about .5 hour. The
thing that takes time is changing the fork oil, the VX800 forks have no
provision for draining the oil. Yes that's right, you must remove the fork
legs. Time consuming. You may want to leave the existing 10 weight oil in.
BRAKES; Stopping requires a firm pull and feels spongy too. I installed a
Russell Performance Products, (310) 595-7523, brake line based on experience
with an other bike. I now have improved stopping power and greater break
control. It is a simple installation, however, it requires a brake fluid
change. Allow a couple of hours.
ASCETIC CHANGES; It looks like Suzuki went to some effort to minimise the
appearance of the radiator. So I don't know why they used chrome screws on
the radiator cowl. You can exchange these some of the black ones used in
other locations on the motorcycle. I found some under the side panels. I also
fabricated some "L" shaped brackets to move the turn signals closer to the
bike. The reflectors that hang down between the bottom of the seat and top of
the rear tire can be easily bent out of view to clean up this area. A little
black spray paint can also be used to de-emphasise the passenger peg/muffler
supports.
Opinion: Over all I am very pleased with this machine. It's a large
motorcycle, with plenty of room to spread out or carry a passenger. Although
I am by no means an expert, this is my 9th motorcycle and I would feel
confident recommending it anyone looking for a dependable standard, sport
touring motorcycle.
Cautions: Pretty minor stuff. The VX800's has a small foot on the end of the
sidestand, watch out for soft ground or asphalt on hot days. If your doing
much all weather touring, I would suggest a different fairing. Suzuki's sport
fairing does not offer the protection from wind/rain you might desire. Notes:
Fram Filters are stocked and available (in my area at Al's Auto Supply) for
several dollars less than the dealer's filter (which wasn't even a Suzuki
part).
Reference Materials: Here are some magazine articles if you want more
information. Cycle World / Feb. 1990 - New for 1990, Suzuki VX800 Cycle World
/ July. 1990 - Standard Time (compares 10 standards) Motorcyclist / Sept.
1990 - A kinder, gentler Every-V for Everyman. Road Rider / Nov. 1990 - Great
All-Around, Easy-To-Live-With Member Of The Family Rider (now called
Motorcycle Consumer News) / Aug. 1991 - Project Victor X-Ray Motorcyclist /
Sept. 1991 - Colorado Staff Tour (see Holst's sidebar) Road Rider / Nov. 1991
- Project VX, Building A Budget Tourer Cycle World / May 1993 - Super
Standards (compares 11standards) Cycle World / Aug. 1993 - Letters, To the
VX800's rescue

Name: Ron Lotton, Olympia, Washington, USA (Ronl@dis.wa.gov)

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1993 Suzuki VX-800 (Standard)

Technical description: The VX-800 was made and sold from 1990 through 1993. It is a basic street bike, powered by Suzuki's outstanding water-cooled, 45-degree 800cc V-twin engine from the VS-800 Intruder (cruiser bike) series. Relatively little maintenance is required due to the use of a shaft drive and electronic ignition. The engine has chain driven, double overhead cams, four valves per cylinder ( 2 intake - 2 exhaust) with lock nut adjusters, and balance shafts. carburettion is via two
38mm Mikunis. The front carburettor a downdraft model, while the rear carburettor is a sidedraft model. The transmission is a five-speed. Shift linkage is a little odd, since the engine was designed for the VS-800 cruiser bike. The shift lever is located normally, but a long rod and joint assembly are required to reach the shift shaft located toward the front of the engine cases. Another oddity is that the rear swingarm/driveshaft is mounted outboard of the frame's rear downtubes. Most standard bikes mount the swingarm inboard of the downtubes. This is another relic of the engine's cruiser origins. Suspension is typical, with twin forks up front and twin rear shock absorbers. My bike has tubeless Dunlop tires, which work well, on magnesium allow wheels. Older models used Metzeler tires.


Description: I believe the bike was marketed with three basic colours: blue, red, and black. Mine is a black one. It has blue metalflake particles in the gelcoat, which is very attractive when viewed at the right angle in sunlight. The bike is rather softly sprung in front and bottoms easily on sharp bumps.
On the other hand, the freeway ride is very plush. Most people upgrade the front fork springs to Progressive units. The rear shocks seem to work quite well. The seat is well-shaped, though thinly padded. I don't take many long trips, but those who do often upgrade the seat. Some people complain of a spongy feel to the front brakes and a tendency to be cold-natured. I have
experienced neither problem. The climate in Houston is very mild, which may explain the absence of cold-natured problems (although we can and do get infrequent spells of freezing weather). Vibration at any RPM is well controlled by the counter-balancers in the engine. Anyone who has every
ridden a Harley 883 Sportster (as I have) can really appreciate the difference.

After an hour or so on the road, I have noticed that there must be a high-frequency vibration that gets to my right hand. Nothing that some gloves and/or a rest stop can't fix. The water-cooled engine is a big advantage here in Texas, where temperatures hover between 90 - 95 degrees most of the summer. Fuel mileage is surprisingly good. I get 38 - 40 MPG around town and have consistently seen 52 - 55 MPG on the freeway at sane speeds. Unfortunately, Texas raised the speed limits a while back and freeway speeds are no longer sane (the sign says 70 MPH, so it must mean 80 MPH). Oil consumption is zilch. Because of the temperatures here, I am running Valvoline 20W50 racing oil.


Pricing: These bikes are still available, but not in great numbers. I lucked out and found a VX800 pretty soon after I decided I wanted one. Stubbs Suzuki, here in Houston, actually had a brand new 1993 model on their showroom floor last year (I told you they didn't sell well). They wanted
$4800, although I felt I could argue them down to about $4200. That's still too much (in my opinion) for a bike that is a 3 year old model as soon as you drive it out the door. Consequently, I kept my eyes open for a clean, used model. I bought my 1993 model from a Houston police officer in July 1995. It had sat up most of the year in his garage and only had 2500 miles. I got it for a very reasonable (I think) $3200.
History: Although the bike ran well for awhile after I bought it, the previous year of inactivity took its toll. I soon had to take the bike into the local Suzuki dealer to get the carbs decrudded and the vacuum shutoff valve on the tank replaced. Since then, the bike has run like a champ. I now have about 6,000 miles on it. In my mind, it has two outstanding features. First, it seems to be dead reliable. Second, the engine has an incredible torque curve. Roll-ons in top gear at speeds above 55 MPH are like lighting an afterburner. I am too old (52) to be a real hotrodder, but I have cracked
the throttle open when entering a freeway ramp at 60 MPH and found myself doing 90 by the time I was merging (?) with the main lanes. Man, that's impressive (and scary)!
Modifications: I haven't really made any substantial modifications. Genuine Suzuki and after-market accessories are well nigh impossible to order because the bike did not sell well. I was able to obtain a Suzuki rack and mini-backrest from a used parts dealer here in Houston. I had a medium sized
fairing left over from my 1977 Yamaha RD-400. It isn't supposed to fit the VX-800, but works out quite well. I am probably going to switch to Progressive front fork springs one day, but haven't done it yet. Otherwise, I am a happy camper!
Opinion: This is undoubtedly the best bike I have owned. It has few flaws (mainly the soft springs and thin seat). It's hard to believe it was a marketing flop. I can only surmise it came out when everyone either wanted a cruiser bike or a crotch-rocket repli-racer. Standards were apparently out of vogue. The only other bikes I even thought about buying were (1) BMW's 750cc flat triple - too expensive (2) Yamaha's TDM-850 - also too expensive (3) Honda's 750cc Nighthawk - motor too wide and a greasy chain. My main concern now is, if I ever wear the VX800 out, where do I find something this good to replace it. Fortunately, I feel it will hang together for a long time.
Cautions: Other than the previously mentioned soft front end and slightly
thin seat, I have no cautions to pass on.

John Hutchins
(jehutchi@ghgcorp.com)